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Dec. 14th, 2020 02:58 am
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"Hey, this is Claude! Pretty sure I'm doing this correctly. You can leave me a message here, and I'll get to it as soon as I can. Talk to you soon~."

Date: 2020-12-25 02:58 pm (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
[Felix glances back in return and the more he talks, the more it seems he's spitting the words out.] Hmph. Go ahead and say whatever you want, it's all true. The Kingdom's nobility cares more about appearances and lofty ideals and their own egos than doing anything for the people or thinking for themselves. They didn't mourn my brother. They applauded him for dying the right kind of death. And that includes Ingrid, and my father. I feel sick just thinking about it.

Date: 2020-12-25 03:39 pm (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
Why would anyone celebrate losing a battle? That makes no sense. [Felix shakes his head.] That doesn't sound much better. Look, I'm grateful that my brother was able to save Dimitri's life, but the fact that he died doing it was a tragic necessity, not some great and glorious accomplishment. [Did Claude know that was specifically how Glenn died? Felix doesn't know, and doesn't really care at this point.]

There's no situation in which it would be better to die than to live if you could achieve the same thing either way. If you're dead, you can't protect anyone or win anything. Seeking a 'meaningful' death is just another way of glorifying sacrifice.

[It's uncanny, this ability Claude has to hit nails on the head from a mile away. It's like he digs into Felix's mind, pulls out the thoughts, and arranges them with clear words instead of muddled feelings. Felix doesn't much like it, but at least it means that Claude understands...at least a little. Which...isn't so bad.]

Date: 2020-12-25 11:30 pm (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
Obviously I respect the decision he made. He was doing his job and it was about more than just Dimitri's survival. Without an heir the whole Kingdom would have been in even more shambles than it is, and I'm sure that was the point.

[Felix scowls.] But my father was a stubborn fool who never looked beyond his pride that Glenn died according to some backwards chivalric ideal that turns lives into symbols. The same ideal Ingrid is so dead set on dedicating her life to. It'll be her death as well. The day my brother's armor came home without a body, the first thing my father said was that he 'died like a true knight.' And he never changed his tune. I blame him for that.

Date: 2020-12-26 07:49 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip frown)
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Now who's letting a dead man's legacy overshadow the reality of who he was? [Felix's voice drips acid, suddenly.] You don't 'have to ask,' actually. You just want to have a debate over it.

But you're right, you can't speak for my father or Ingrid, or any of the other pompous nobles I grew up around who wanted me to unquestioningly devote my life to their pernicious notions of blind loyalty and faith. Adherence to a system that venerates inheritance over the people who inherit. So yes, they absolutely believe that to be a knight is to be admirable for its own sake.

And yes, my brother would have done what he knew was right regardless of any hoary legends perpetuated by the Church. He taught me to think for myself and never accept other people's beliefs as my own. He was a knight because he understood what it really meant to be one and made that decision for himself. Not because he was following in anyone's footsteps, or doing a 'noble's duty.' There's a bigger difference than you think.

Date: 2020-12-26 08:26 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip look away)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
[Felix rubs his face with one hand.] Sorry. You're trying to help. I know that. It's...once, when we were at the academy, my father called me home to help deal with some bandits. We saved a village in our territory. Afterward, he said he was doing it as his 'duty to the late king.' As if proclaiming his useless loyalty to a dead man was more important than the innocent lives we saved.

[Felix glances over and lifts an eyebrow, at this description of Lorenz.] I never talked to Lorenz. Now I'm glad I didn't. [He nods.] You're right. That's exactly it. It's abhorrent.

Date: 2020-12-26 08:53 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip frown)
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They're not better off if they die a meaningless death that could have been avoided if they weren't out looking for it. [Which is what's probably going to happen to Ingrid someday.] If we were back in Fodlan, I'd give you a copy of one of those insidious chivalric tales every good Faerghan child is supposed to aspire to and you could see for yourself. The way all the 'classic' stories end in glorious sacrifice. 'There is no greater fate than dying for one's liege,' just because some long-dead hero did it. Ugh.

[He frowns, looking down at the path at their feet.] As for my father, I can hardly imagine him without all his talk of duty and loyalty. But...I suppose I believe that he would have done it anyway. I just don't see why he always had to dress everything up in the same kind of nonsense that drove Dimitri to obsess over vengeance for the dead.

Date: 2020-12-27 08:55 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
You hardly have to apologize for failing to understand something so absurd. I don't understand it either. I've just seen its effects firsthand.

You have the right idea. Death is a last resort. But the Church of Seiros claims that when we die, our souls all return to the Goddess to be together, unless they have regrets. The regretful dead suffer in the Eternal Flames until someone takes vengeance for their deaths or otherwise rights their wrongs. Sometimes I think they invented that doctrine to justify their brutal idea of justice.
Edited Date: 2020-12-27 08:55 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-12-27 10:44 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip concerned)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
You did. So apology accepted for that, at least.

Ha. Those are all questions the Church doesn't want anyone to ask, and most people in Faerghus aren't like you. They just accept what they're told. The Goddess decides all those things, apparently. And works in 'mysterious ways.' But I won't be convinced that my brother's soul is eternally suffering because Dimitri hasn't personally murdered Edelgard yet. [He shakes his head.] Or his father's, for that matter. King Lambert wasn't perfect by any means, but he wouldn't harangue the son he doted on to abandon everything he believes in and act like a wild beast for the sake of bloody vengeance.

Date: 2020-12-29 01:03 pm (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
I'm not surprised you and Seteth didn't get along. But he's not nearly as bad as everyone always said he was. Meddlesome, but...he gives good advice. Like you.

[Felix listens to Claude without interrupting, though he sort of tunes out the bit about lenses. He's not sure why you'd ever line up a bunch of pairs of glasses to shine light through them? But he knows that if he asks, he'll get way more of an explanation than he ever wanted, so he doesn't bother. He gets the point, and that's what matters.

By the time Claude finishes, Felix is giving him a thoughtful look.]
Now you sound like my brother. He always said the same thing, that people should choose what they believe in and then live by that. [Or die by it. He falls silent briefly, thinking about Rodrigue.] I suppose, as disgusted with my father as I was, he never tried to force his beliefs or anyone else's onto us. I'm...grateful for that much.

[Then he shrugs.] I don't know whether I believe the Goddess is real or not, but I do know that the Church is stronger in Faerghus than anywhere else in Fodlan, and it shows. It's been embedded in the Kingdom's governance since the beginning. Technically, Dimitri could override Rhea's authority and go against the Church, but it's hardly ever happened and it wouldn't be pretty. The Archbishop is the one who coronates the king, after all. Bestowing the favor of the Goddess upon Her Holy Kingdom, and all that. I doubt Rhea would take it lying down.

Date: 2020-12-30 06:22 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
At this point, I doubt it. What would be the point of hiding all this time? Or keeping her captive without using her as leverage?

[Felix shrugs.] I was speaking hypothetically. It's not like we don't benefit from the Church's presence. Even now--without Garreg Mach as a base and the support of the Knights of Seiros, we wouldn't have gotten anywhere in the war. We tried leading an invasion of Fhirdiad from Fraldarius before and failed. Maybe Dimitri's presence would have changed things enough, but I doubt it.

All I'm saying is that the Church is a major part of the problem and has been since the beginning.

Date: 2020-12-30 08:18 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
From: [personal profile] bestswordmaster
The strength to protect our people and fight back a tyrant isn't 'shallow.' If people want to pray to the Goddess and seek guidance from the Church, that's their affair, but I personally have no use for that. I don't need a stranger's guidance and the ideals of an absent Goddess to tell me how to live. I have beliefs and passions to live for that are mine alone.

[Felix grunts his agreement with Claude's talk about Edelgard.] And the war would have been bad enough without the repugnant dark magic. Forcing people to turn against each other, transforming them into demonic beasts...even if I did agree wholeheartedly with her cause, and even if war were necessary, I could never follow someone who would condone such abhorrent methods.

...but it's true that I would like to see a world where Crests didn't matter. [For Sylvain's sake, and that of people like him. People like Miklan, for what he was driven to do. Felix will never forgive what Sylvain's brother did to him, but he can recognize that the problem is much bigger than one disowned and murderous heir.] And I don't see the Church allowing that kind of world anytime soon.

I don't know what the answer is. I'm not a big picture kind of guy, like you and Dimitri. [He doesn't sound like he minds this--it's just a fact.]

Date: 2020-12-30 09:39 am (UTC)
bestswordmaster: (postskip contemplative)
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Of course Faerghus is shaped by its military. Dimitri and I learned to wield weapons before we learned to read or write. It's a warrior culture, and I'm glad for that. As far as I'm concerned, the Knights of Seiros and their peerless skill are the primary benefits of the Church. And if the Church itself didn't at least partially agree, they wouldn't dispatch them to enforce their doctrines so readily, and they wouldn't ensure that only the central Church is allowed to have a standing army.

[Felix frowns.] Doesn't it seem like the Church would take measures to make sure that didn't happen? They know as well as we do that Crests are dying out, and that without Crested nobility, a lot of their excuses for meddling in governance go away. I don't know what those measures would be, though.

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