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vrdantwind

They're certainly harder to provide for than horses, but not quite as much as your description would make it sound. They have slow metabolisms. They need to eat a lot, but certainly less frequently than horses do. A wyvern can go weeks between feedings.

That said...well, the truth is there's only one type of selective breeding I know of, and it's on a very limited scale. There's a certain country in my world where a very rare and specific color of wyvern is reserved for royalty. So there's rarely more than two or three at a time in existence. It's not what you'd call an extensive breeding program. Definitely not comparable to the way people breed horses.

As for hatching, I don't know many particulars. My wyvern was hatched shortly after I myself was born, so I wasn't really in a position to take notes. But successful integration, as you put it, isn't really a thing - at least, you make it sound like hatchlings are raised to be integrated with older wyverns. But hatchlings are raised very closely with humans as part of the taming and acclimation process, and it's a process that can take a decade or more. Usually it's either the person to whom the wyvern belongs - where I'm from, it's not at all uncommon for a person and their wyvern to grow up together, and that's what happened with mine - but for mounts meant for more general use than personal ownership, there are people who specialize in that rearing process. It's important for wyverns to develop that strong bonds with humans.

Besides, as I understand, they're not particularly social or nurturing with each other in the wild, so they don't exactly miss the company of their own kind.

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lovelybottom

I am making assumptions. I had assumed that wyvern would be kept in a centralized facility, even if there aren't many of them in an army. In a similar manner to horses in a stable or soldiers in barracks. (A vivarium? Aviary?) Hence a need for some socialization, so that they don't become hostile to other members of their own division. It seems as though it would be difficult logistically for each individual wyvern to be kept with its rider, especially when they reach maturity.

If the breeding program is limited solely to these royal wyvern, are the rest simply sourced from the wild? That's an unenviable job. Even if they aren't social, I've yet to meet a brooding female that won't defend her clutch.

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vrdantwind

In my own experience, wyverns tend to be kept in stables not too unlike horses...although the boxes are obviously a lot bigger. The stables tend to be kept warmer than a horse stable, as well. Wyverns don't wear blankets nearly as well, both because their scales are more like large, overlapping plates and they're kind of pointy at the joints, plus the obvious matter of the wings. They take a lot less regular exercise than horses, too; as long as they're well-fed, they're generally happy to relax. Slower metabolisms again. They definitely don't get frisky or restless like horses do. And of course, there's a big difference in maintenance and feeding between a wyvern that isn't being actively flown much and one that is. It's one of the things that makes maintaining wyverns as part of a standing army viable in the long term.

So, since they're kept in relatively close quarters, like horses are, I guess you could say they get accustomed to the presence of other wyverns by proximity.

Ah, I think I might've explained myself badly. I meant that breeding for special colors of wyvern is the only effort to breed for anything specific in wyverns that I'm really aware of. But we do breed wyverns in captivity over trying to hunt down wild clutches or, even worse, trying to tame wyverns from the wild. That said, we really only breed them for up and coming wyvern riders 0 which is to say, kids who are going to be riders or soldiers. Wyverns take long enough to come for maturity that there's no point giving a young wyvern to an adult; they need to either be at maturity already, or come to it at about the same time as their rider.

One of the bigger challenges of wyvern riders in war is finding new wyverns for riders who lose their mounts, or new riders for wyverns who've lost their riders. Obviously those problems seem to solve themselves - just pair them up - but both rider and wyvern tend to develop pretty strong bonds with their particular mount. It's tough on both sides to adjust to a new partner. Some riderless wyverns have to be released because they won't accept any other rider; fortunately, even tame wyverns seem to take back to the wild life pretty quickly. I guess it's because they're not really fully domesticated. Humans tend to adjust to such losses better, but I've heard of men with big personalities becoming withdrawn for years because of a lost wyvern partner. It's obviously the worst with partners like myself and my own wyvern, who were raised together.

Older teenagers and adults who are paired with stable-raised wyverns manage those losses better, which is why you mostly see stable-raised wyverns among the rank and file of armies, where you expect to see those losses incurred more regularly. It's really only high-ranking military families, nobility, or those who maintain wyverns for travel and recreation that raise their own wyverns - and not even all of them do. You get much smarter, more responsive, more loyal mounts that way - but it's a big time and effort investment, and not everyone who reasonably make it necessarily wants to.

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lovelybottom

Interesting. I would not have anticipated that wyvern would bond so closely with humans, even if raised together since hatching, considering their solitary natures. Though that may very well be a trait that was selected for in the breeding process, whether intentionally or not.

[In the margins of his notes, Geralt writes something down that's a separate observation from the things that Claude has been telling him: humans will pack bond with anything. It is a remarkable and persistent trait of humanity, the desire for companionship from creatures that, by all rights, should want nothing to do with them. They did it with wolves, and apparently in Claude's universe, with fucking wyvern.]

[The lifespan of a wyvern could be quite long; enough so that a man could have one of them for his whole life, from cradle to grave. Geralt has dealt with the loss of his mounts before, horses that served him well and had been more a friend to him than most other creatures, and they only lived a few short decades. Those farewells were difficult, even though each Roach only lived a fraction of Geralt's life. A companion that had lived the entirety of it...]

You were raised with your wyvern from a young age. What is its name?

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vrdantwind

Entirely possible. I've heard that Almyra was the first country to truly tame them, and they have the longest history of wyvern-riding being a major aspect of their culture, so presumably they'd be the ones to have records of what the very first tamed wyverns were like...but they're also a country with a strong oral tradition. Such records likely wouldn't exist in written form - or, if they did, they were probably written up centuries after the actual events by scholars concerned with more material records, and who knows what changes or omissions to that knowledge might have occurred before it was ever committed to paper.

[Claude isn't quite sure how much he wants to tell Geralt about himself, including the fact that he himself is Almyran. Not necessarily because he thinks Geralt would - or could - use that information against him, but because Claude has some friends he hasn't really...told the truth about himself yet. He doesn't want a careless word from someone who doesn't know who has or hasn't been told to reach their ears.

Not that Geralt really lets many words at all past his lips, careless or otherwise...but the best guard for a secret is one's own self. If Claude controls the information, he doesn't have to worry about such things at all.]

His name is Mori. It means 'horse' in an ancient language. Which, well...I named my horse Wyvern. I thought it was funny back when I was a kid...okay, I admit, it's still funny. Especially the looks on people's faces when I tell them that.

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lovelybottom

I have known of some oral traditions to be remarkably well preserved through generations, that's a discussion you'd likely prefer to have with the bard. It is something of his wheelhouse.

[When talking about stories and songs that get passed down from person to person, it's probably best to consult with the person whose literal job it is to make said stories and songs. Jaskier would have studied this kind of thing at Oxenfurt, though Geralt has no idea how much of it he retained; the witcher is aware that Jaskier spent, for instance, his geography courses with a demijohn of vodka hidden behind the textbook. And this is why he doesn't consult Jaskier for directions.]

[Claude named his horse Wyvern and his wyvern Horse. Geralt, a man who has named every single horse he's owned after a fish, finds this amusing.]

One of my brothers has named all of his horses Horse. All of mine are named after a fish. I would have little room to criticize your naming conventions.

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vrdantwind

Hah! Your brother sounds less than inventive...or perhaps scared of getting too attached to his mount. But what about your horses? Can I ask why a fish?